We are planning to place both of these group orders on Thursday, April 4th. That means, we need all of these orders in by the end of the day on Wednesday, April 3rd. We won't be organizing another group order for either of these companies until July 1, so be sure to email us (jeffmacnair.ajb@gmail.com) ASAP if you want something before then. The Ceramic Speed discount is 20% and the Stages Cycling discount is 25%.